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Interview
General David Petraeus (Ret.) on Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, co-authored with Andrew Roberts — and what it means for Ukraine's fight.
In this conversation, General Petraeus discusses the ideas at the heart of Conflict — the continuities in the nature of war and the changes in its character since 1945 — and how they illuminate Russia's war on Ukraine and the path back to peace.
The book
Petraeus and Andrew Roberts trace how warfare has changed — and what has stayed the same — from 1945 to the battlefields of Ukraine. Make at least a $100 donation to the Borderlands Foundation and we'll ship you a copy signed by General Petraeus.

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